Re: And another bill collector (209.234.166.54)

Posted by DDF (66.73.3.151) on April 09, 2003 at 16:41:03:

In Reply to: Re: And another bill collector (209.234.166.54) posted by scott on April 09, 2003 at 15:41:05:

"Nobody said it was illegal to call and employer or neighbor" Actually, you dont have to say it its said right here in black an white:
The Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, 42 U.S.C. §1692c
(a) Communication with the consumer generally
Without the prior consent of the consumer given directly to the debt collector or the express permission of a court of competent jurisdiction, a debt collector may not communicate with a consumer in connection with the collection of any debt -
(1) at any unusual time or place or a time or place known or which should be known to be inconvenient to the consumer. In the absence of knowledge of circumstances to the contrary, a debt collector shall assume that the convenient time for communicating with a consumer is after 8 o'clock antemeridian [a.m.] and before 9 o'clock postmeridian [p.m.], local time at the consumer's location;
(2) if the debt collector knows the consumer is represented by an attorney with respect to such debt and has knowledge of, or can readily ascertain, such attorney's name and address, unless the attorney fails to respond within a reasonable period of time to a communication from the debt collector or unless the attorney consents to direct communication with the consumer; or
(3) at the consumer's place of employment if the debt collector knows or has reason to know that the consumer's employer prohibits the consumer from receiving such communication.

(b) Communication with third parties

Except as provided in section 1692b of this title, without the prior consent of the consumer given directly to the debt collector, or the express permission of a court of competent jurisdiction, or as reasonably necessary to effectuate a postjudgment judicial remedy, a debt collector may not communicate, in connection with the collection of any debt, with any person other than the consumer, his attorney, a consumer reporting agency if otherwise permitted by law, the creditor, the attorney of the creditor, or the attorney of the debt collector.

(c) Ceasing communication

If a consumer notifies a debt collector in writing that the consumer refuses to pay a debt or that the consumer wishes the debt collector to cease further communication with the consumer, the debt collector shall not communicate further with the consumer with respect to such debt, except -
(1) to advise the consumer that the debt collector's further efforts are being terminated;
(2) to notify the consumer that the debt collector or creditor may invoke specified remedies which are ordinarily invoked by such debt collector or creditor; or
(3) where applicable, to notify the consumer that the debt collector or creditor intends to invoke a specified remedy. If such notice from the consumer is made by mail, notification shall be complete upon receipt.

(d) ''Consumer'' defined

For the purpose of this section, the term ''consumer'' includes the consumer's spouse, parent (if the consumer is a minor), guardian, executor, or administrator.

Heres the best part:
That is an awful lot of legal terminology, but it is always better to have the actual statute to quote when you talk to collection people. What it all means is that a creditor

Can't call you early in the morning or late at night.

Can't call you at your job, if you tell the debt collector you can't get collection calls at work.

Can't contact you directly if you have an attorney.

Note: The fact that a creditor can't contact you directly if you have an attorney is a very good reason to get one. He or she can help you understand your rights, and may be able to negotiate a settlement or a payment plan with a creditor.

Can't contact other people about your debt.

Can't bother your family.

Can't contact you at all, if you tell them in writing not to.

Maybe the trolls should be sent towards the FCRA to read the laws themself and see what is really legal and not!!!!!!!!!!
Keep giving us the help, we are so very much in need of. We, the "Posters" reserve the right to read and learn all we can about credit laws. A BIG BIG Thank You to everyone that helps on credit boards.

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