Re: Should I pay or not?? Help
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Posted by AvoidLosingInCourt
(208.1.29.54) on December 29, 2003 at 14:42:10:
In Reply to: Should I pay or not?? Help posted by stressed on December 29, 2003 at 13:12:22:
stressed, Is complete control closure to you? Is avoidance of all court appearances closure..... No one will come and pat you on the back when you win with Commercial Redemption(tm)..... The court will not issue a judgement.... The court is neutral and will only enter when there is a controversy..... Control is better than owner....owner means one who owes a debt for the right to control..... If no one can move against you isn't that better than owner....anyone can make claims against an owner..... stressed.....All offers are Commercial Offers..... Every single paper received that requests performance from you is a commercial offer...... That paper received has a commercial value.....if it comes to you in the mail ....you have accepted it.... acceptance is perfected if you do nothing.... Once accepted you are responsible to perform what is demanded on the paper..... Whether you owe me or not ....if I send you a bill and you ignore it ....you are consenting to the debt...... You must answer if you have any hope of settling the debt in your favor... If you do not owe the debt.....you can test it.....by a conditional acceptance.... such as...... I conditionally accept your offer upon presenting proof of claim give them ten days to present proof of claim or alleged account is settled in full.... but most likely this will not bring closure...... If you know you owe the debt .... you can accept and return the paper ....which is called a full acceptance..... An acceptance and a return eliminates the terms "they " want you to perform to satisfy the debt....but does not settle the debt..... to settle the debt you must accept the full dollar value of the debt and schedule payment on "your " terms.... You consent to a judgment in your own court.....You are the king..... If you accept the debt you have standing to set the terms.....to write a new contract.... You do this by accepting the debt as the current balance due for this month and making a payment..... leaving a balance due for next month.... When the creditor accepts payment he has accepted "your " contract to settle the debt..... He may loudly protest but that does not matter.... you have the proof ..... the accepted payment....under the UCC if you accept the benefit of a contract....there is a presumption of a contract..... You then continue to make your payments according to your new interest free contract with the creditor..... If you receive any commercial offers on the old contract.....you conditionally accept them upon the creditor presenting proof that there is not a new contract.......and upon presenting that the payments on the new contract are not current.... You will then likely receive a letter from their attorney ....don't let that scare you....it is only a bluff....he will make threats and tell you that you are going to be sued until they shake every last coin out of your pocket.....the letter from the attorney is just the same as a bill from the creditor.... You conditionally accept upon presenting proof that there is not a new contract and upon presenting proof that the payments on the new contract are not current..... The attorney will likely call you and tell you that this is the stupidest paper he has ever read....and that you will be sued. This is good news..... The lawsuit..... so the creditor goes ahead and files..... you receive the paper work from a process server or certified mail.... Liberty is knocking at your door.... even though the suit comes on the courts stationary....you are still dealing with the creditors attorney.... You accept and return the lawsuit to the attorney.... with a counter offer ....you offer the new contract with payments current with the specific balance due and a dollar postal money order in exchange for full settlement of the account and closure..... giving the creditor ten days to present a proof of claim or settle and close the account.....you return the lawsuit and the the new contract (which is the paperwork with the new contract and copies of the receipts of your payments) to the creditors lawyer....file a copy of your presentment to the creditors attorney with the clerk of courts.....and it is over.... The creditor cannot prove that he has not accepted a new contract....and for that matter breached it... you have the proof which is the accepted payment.... There is no controversy for the court to rule on.....it will not get into the newspaper..... the creditor will shut up.... the court is now your witness .....Life is good.... Stephen..... Revelation chapter 9 and specifically....... Revelation 9:11.....the bottomless pit is the imprisoned earth....the furnace is the kingdom of Babylon.....the smoke is the illusion or fiction.....the locusts are kings or sovereigns.....that take the key from the King of kings and liberate themselves from Babylon..... 911 was the signal for the destruction of the Babylonian commercial system and the revelation of the the King of kings..... the angel descended from heaven...means the ancient bloodline of the flesh and blood King..... the reason for the captivity is the dishonor of the King of kings by his people.....that creates the prison or the fictional earth.....so only the King has the key to unlock the imprisoned earth..... all the public servants work for the King of kings....and the public servants will work for you if you align yourselves with the King of kings.....and accept the remedy...the key that unlocks your prison of fiction....
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